, greece has been very adept at increasing their debt ceiling. now, they have 25% unemployment. 50% youth unemployment. there are people who can't even finds jobs in cities who are having to move out, according to press reports, to rural areas. that could be our future. as tom said, if you gave the president every job-forming tax increase that he's asked for, it's about 3% of the spending. and the president himself has said that the drivers of our debt are medicare, medicaid and health care. nothing else comes close. >> senator stabenow pointed out -- >> you can't get it done, george. you have to deal with the structural reforms to our entitlement spending, protecting current seniors but helping to insure my 10-year-old daughter and 9-year-old son that these programs are around for them. >> but senator coburn, in president obama's health care act, $116 billion in medicare savings, which a lot of republicans, not you, but a lot of republicans in the last campaign, including mitt romney, ran against. >> well, george, first of all, the $700 billion